Created on 2016-07-07 02:04 by rouilj, last changed 2021-03-12 23:06 by rouilj.
|msg5773||Author: [hidden] (rouilj)||Date: 2016-07-07 02:04|
At: https://sourceforge.net/p/roundup/mailman/message/34268641/ is a discussion of computed properties for a class. Use case: suppose you wanted to have a count of the number of messages in an issue. You can add a msg_count: issue = IssueClass(db,'issue', .... msg_count = Number() to the issue, but then you need an auditor to keep the count up to date, and it has to run on every msg update even if nobody ever asks for the msg_count. Suppose you could instead add: msg_count = Computed("countIssueMessages") When somebody does a db.issue.get(id, 'msg_count') the function: countIssueMessages(InstanceOfIssueClass, db) is invoked. Then in schema.py (or lib/) I define: Class Computed: def countIssueMessages(Myissue, db): return Myissue['msgs'].count() Use Case: this could be used for getting the user phone number from an external address book by changing the user schema to read: user = Class(db, "user", ... phone=Computed("getPhoneFromLdap") then: def getPhoneFromLdap(Myuser, db): return lookupPhoneGivenUser(Myuser['username']) So this way there is no need to "sync" a bunch of data from an external source into roundup. Design etc. TBD. But I wanted to get this in the tracker as it seems it may be a good summer of code idea for the future. Note that there is no way to set the properties, they are strictly read only at this time.
|msg5858||Author: [hidden] (antmail)||Date: 2016-07-15 11:13|
> At: https://sourceforge.net/p/roundup/mailman/message/34268641/ > is a discussion of computed properties for a class. I think this is very interesting issue. I think we must discuss a design and future direction of roundup-tracker. There are my raw thoughts. I think that a ReadOnly properties is more suitable to roundup-tracker conception than Computed. Firstly it can be typified and then used in template as usual. The example of external address book will look like: user = Class(db, "user", ... phone=ROString("getPhoneFromLdap") ... then: def getPhoneFromLdap(MyUser): return lookupPhoneGivenUser(Myuser['username'])
|msg7031||Author: [hidden] (rouilj)||Date: 2020-11-18 15:19|
I have an initial read only implementation of this setup. It supports query/display in html, rest and xml interfaces. You can specify a cache parameter, but using it raises NotImplementedError. It does not support: search, sort or grouping by the computed field. Doc is also done (bloating customizing.txt even more). While the initial use case is read only, a developer I know pointed out that this could be useful abstraction to model external data sources into roundup. So in theory setting a property in a remote db (oracle, mongo, ldap) could be done via this mechanism. I am not sure this is better then using a reactor. It would keep data retrieval together with data manipulation/setting code but.... I am still using the classname Computed, but I think it needs a better name. Maybe: Operator, Agent, Broker (my fave so far), Proxy... Suggestions? -- rouilj
|msg7032||Author: [hidden] (schlatterbeck)||Date: 2020-11-18 15:44|
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 03:19:16PM +0000, John Rouillard wrote: > > I have an initial read only implementation of this setup. Cool! ... > I am still using the classname Computed, but I think it needs a better > name. Maybe: Operator, Agent, Broker (my fave so far), Proxy... > Suggestions? I'd keep Computed as the base class. Other implementation may chose to derive from it. It would be nice to make a derived class that can search, too, like your implementation of the number of items: This could map to some SQL code and thus be searchable, too. (Maybe this needs two different SQL parts, one for search one for display, I haven't looked too closely yet) Concerning read-only: My guess is that most computed properties will be read-only. Ralf -- Dr. Ralf Schlatterbeck Tel: +43/2243/26465-16 Open Source Consulting www: www.runtux.com Reichergasse 131, A-3411 Weidling email: firstname.lastname@example.org
|msg7033||Author: [hidden] (rouilj)||Date: 2020-11-18 18:06|
Hi Ralf: In message <email@example.com>, Ralf Schlatterbeck writes: >On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 03:19:16PM +0000, John Rouillard wrote: >> I am still using the classname Computed, but I think it needs a better >> name. Maybe: Operator, Agent, Broker (my fave so far), Proxy... >> Suggestions? > >I'd keep Computed as the base class. Other implementation may chose >to derive from it. Well this is a base class like Integer, Number, Date ... I don't expect them to be subclassed. The only thing you can really set are new methods. New methods are added by setattr() on the Computed class rather than subclassing. >It would be nice to make a derived class that can search, too, like >your implementation of the number of items: This could map to some SQL >code and thus be searchable, too. (Maybe this needs two different SQL >parts, one for search one for display, For data where the source of truth lives in roundup (e.g. message count), it would probably be better implemented via a real property with a detector/auditor that updates the data. For data where the source of truth is outside of roundup, we need to cache data locally for all instances of the class. Otherwise we have to do expensive computation for say 1,000,000 issues of the field. Ideally that would never be the only field searched, so the number of computed fields would be a fraction of the total number of issues but... If we cache all 1,000,000 issues, they need to be rescanned and have their values recalcuated into a sql/anydbm cache on a regular basis. Alternatively the cache could be maintained by a (rest update) request from the source of truth. (Another reason writing to a computed field may be useful.) Otherwise the search results will be incomplete at best or wrong at worst. > I haven't looked too closely yet) I haven't checked it in yet. I can send you a patch offline if you like. It doesn't have tests and there is no obvious existing test to extend. >Concerning read-only: My guess is that most computed properties will be >read-only. That was my expectation as well. The current implementation is only for read only access, but we could have write use cases.
|msg7038||Author: [hidden] (rouilj)||Date: 2020-11-27 23:13|
I pushed my changes onto the issue2550923_computed_property branch starting with rev6292:1e5ed659e8ca. Ralf feel free to take a look I am not sure it is worth merging in its current state but...
|msg7101||Author: [hidden] (rouilj)||Date: 2021-03-12 23:06|
Ralf, Anthony: Have you had a chance to look at the new Computed type? -- rouilj
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|2020-11-27 23:13:45||rouilj||set||assignee: rouilj|
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|2020-11-18 18:06:04||rouilj||set||messages: + msg7033|
|2020-11-18 15:44:04||schlatterbeck||set||messages: + msg7032|
|2020-11-18 15:19:16||rouilj||set||status: new -> open|
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|2016-07-12 15:34:14||schlatterbeck||set||nosy: + schlatterbeck|