Issue 2550496
Created on 2009-02-05 16:58 by tonimueller, last changed 2009-06-17 15:08 by stefan.
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msg3507 | Author: [hidden] (tonimueller) | Date: 2009-02-05 16:58 | |
After roundup getting a new homepage, the help link in the menu is now broken. See Debian's BTS #514215. diff -urNad roundup-1.4.4~/templates/classic/html/page.html roundup-1.4.4/templates/classic/html/page.html --- roundup-1.4.4~/templates/classic/html/page.html 2008-03-01 09:06:42.000000000 +0100 +++ roundup-1.4.4/templates/classic/html/page.html 2009-02-05 17:15:34.000000000 +0100 @@ -164,7 +164,7 @@ </p> <p class="userblock"> <b i18n:translate="">Help</b><br> - <a href="http://roundup.sourceforge.net/doc-1.0/" + <a href="http://www.roundup-tracker.org/docs.html" i18n:translate="">Roundup docs</a> </p> </td> diff -urNad roundup-1.4.4~/templates/minimal/html/page.html roundup-1.4.4/templates/minimal/html/page.html --- roundup-1.4.4~/templates/minimal/html/page.html 2008-03-01 09:08:05.000000000 +0100 +++ roundup-1.4.4/templates/minimal/html/page.html 2009-02-05 17:15:28.000000000 +0100 @@ -151,7 +151,7 @@ </p> <p class="userblock"> <b i18n:translate="">Help</b><br> - <a href="http://roundup.sourceforge.net/doc-1.0/" + <a href="http://www.roundup-tracker.org/docs.html" i18n:translate="">Roundup docs</a> </p> </td> |
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msg3509 | Author: [hidden] (stefan) | Date: 2009-02-05 17:59 | |
Thanks for spotting this. Your patch would certainly work, however I wonder whether it wouldn't be better to actually install the docs as part of the roundup package, and then, fixing these links to point to local documentation instead of the Roundup website. Richard, what do you think ? |
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msg3510 | Author: [hidden] (tonimueller) | Date: 2009-02-05 18:17 | |
Hi Stefan, On Thu, 05.02.2009 at 17:59:08 +0000, Stefan Seefeld <issues@roundup-tracker.org> wrote: > Stefan Seefeld <stefan@codesourcery.com> added the comment: > Thanks for spotting this. Your patch would certainly work, however I I'd like to note that most of my bug reports are not my own creation, but things that hit my mailbox in the course of maintaining Debian's roundup package. So, if you want to thank someone for originally finding, and/or solving, the problem, you usually need to go to the Debian bug reports that I link to. > wonder whether it wouldn't be better to actually install the docs as > part of the roundup package, and then, fixing these links to point to > local documentation instead of the Roundup website. I don't currently augment the package with docs that are not contained in the package. So, only the contained man pages get shipped with the package. Although I also see value in having local docs, linking to the project's web page is a good idea, imho, at least now that the project has a wiki, too. Kind regards, --Toni++ |
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msg3511 | Author: [hidden] (stefan) | Date: 2009-02-05 18:34 | |
Toni Mueller wrote: > I'd like to note that most of my bug reports are not my own creation, > but things that hit my mailbox in the course of maintaining Debian's > roundup package. So, if you want to thank someone for originally > finding, and/or solving, the problem, you usually need to go to the > Debian bug reports that I link to. I see. May I suggest we introduce a convention that allows a) the tracker to generate appropriate links into the upstream tracker and b) makes casual readers immediately aware of where the link goes ? May be a syntax such as 'debian#514215' in this case ? >> wonder whether it wouldn't be better to actually install the docs as >> part of the roundup package, and then, fixing these links to point to >> local documentation instead of the Roundup website. > > I don't currently augment the package with docs that are not contained > in the package. So, only the contained man pages get shipped with the > package. Although I also see value in having local docs, linking to the > project's web page is a good idea, imho, at least now that the project > has a wiki, too. OK. Yes, I was thinking of packaging docs that right now are generated but not installed / packaged. Thanks, Stefan |
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msg3512 | Author: [hidden] (tonimueller) | Date: 2009-02-05 18:49 | |
Hi, On Thu, 05.02.2009 at 18:34:39 +0000, Stefan Seefeld <issues@roundup-tracker.org> wrote: > I see. May I suggest we introduce a convention that allows a) the > tracker to generate appropriate links into the upstream tracker huh? Debian's BTS already has appropriate links when I link to Roundup's tracker. See eg. this bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=514221 At the end of it, you can read: "Noted your statement that Bug has been forwarded to http://issues.roundup-tracker.org/issue2550497." I'm also a bit confused because you *are* upstream. Debian is downstream. For the other direction: > makes casual readers immediately aware of where the link goes ? > May be a syntax such as 'debian#514215' in this case ? This would be great, however. I'd also like to be able to just click on the number and get to the respective bug report in the BTS. While you are at it, please make this part of Roundup's standard distribution. :-) > OK. Yes, I was thinking of packaging docs that right now are generated > but not installed / packaged. If someone would like to roll an official package, I'd package these, too. Kind regards, --Toni++ |
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msg3513 | Author: [hidden] (stefan) | Date: 2009-02-05 19:20 | |
Toni Mueller wrote: > Toni Mueller <dev@tonimueller.org> added the comment: > > Hi, > > On Thu, 05.02.2009 at 18:34:39 +0000, Stefan Seefeld <issues@roundup-tracker.org> wrote: >> I see. May I suggest we introduce a convention that allows a) the >> tracker to generate appropriate links into the upstream tracker > > huh? Debian's BTS already has appropriate links when I link to > Roundup's tracker. See eg. this bug report: Sorry for being misleading. What I meant was a convention here on this tracker to use debian#514221 to refer to the upstream bug. I have just added the necessary logic to the tracker to make this string be translated into an appropriate link when looked at via the web interface. Thanks, Stefan |
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msg3514 | Author: [hidden] (richard) | Date: 2009-02-05 21:24 | |
I would prefer to move the docs in the website back to the old location so that all installed tracker links work, old mailing list discussions are still valid and search engine searches still work. |
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msg3515 | Author: [hidden] (stefan) | Date: 2009-02-05 21:30 | |
Richard Jones wrote: > Richard Jones <richard@mechanicalcat.net> added the comment: > > I would prefer to move the docs in the website back to the old location > so that all installed tracker links work, old mailing list discussions > are still valid and search engine searches still work. OK. I agree it makes sense not to break compatibility without a good reason. I'm not sure though what exactly needs to be done, as I don't know under what name(s) / URLs documentation has been referred to. Toni's example was http://roundup.sourceforge.net/doc-1.0/, which could be solved either by a local link, or an URL rewrite. What other URLs need to be kept alive ? Thanks, Stefan |
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msg3516 | Author: [hidden] (richard) | Date: 2009-02-05 21:40 | |
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Stefan Seefeld wrote: > OK. I agree it makes sense not to break compatibility without a good > reason. I'm not sure though what exactly needs to be done, as I don't > know under what name(s) / URLs documentation has been referred to. > Toni's example was http://roundup.sourceforge.net/doc-1.0/, which could > be solved either by a local link, or an URL rewrite. This seems reasonable. > What other URLs need to be kept alive ? None, though we lost the "user feedback" page along the way, which is a shame. |
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msg3517 | Author: [hidden] (tonimueller) | Date: 2009-02-06 08:54 | |
Hi, On Thu, 05.02.2009 at 21:30:37 +0000, Stefan Seefeld <issues@roundup-tracker.org> wrote: > Richard Jones wrote: > > I would prefer to move the docs in the website back to the old location > > so that all installed tracker links work, old mailing list discussions > > are still valid and search engine searches still work. > OK. I agree it makes sense not to break compatibility without a good > reason. I'm not sure though what exactly needs to be done, as I don't > know under what name(s) / URLs documentation has been referred to. my guess is, that unless you can access SF's access logs, there is no good way finding out which links broke. > Toni's example was http://roundup.sourceforge.net/doc-1.0/, which could This link is hard-coded in the 'page.html' templates. I am also in favour of not breaking backwards compatibility ("cool URLs never change"), and would suggest either of the following: > be solved either by a local link, or an URL rewrite. If this turns out to be infeasible, I'd say that it would be good to put up a placeholder page, also set as a 404 error document, that says something like "The project has moved to a new website. Please click .... to go to the new website.", or similar. Kind regards, --Toni++ |
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msg3535 | Author: [hidden] (richard) | Date: 2009-02-12 01:58 | |
The /doc-1.0/ URL works again but it's got the old website content rather than the new. |
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msg3539 | Author: [hidden] (stefan) | Date: 2009-02-12 05:10 | |
Richard Jones wrote: > Richard Jones <richard@mechanicalcat.net> added the comment: > > The /doc-1.0/ URL works again but it's got the old website content > rather than the new. Yup, that was a Quick Hack, until I could figure out how to do it right. I'll look into this soon, I promise. Thanks, Stefan |
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msg3542 | Author: [hidden] (tonimueller) | Date: 2009-02-12 08:33 | |
Hi, On Thu, 12.02.2009 at 05:10:11 +0000, Stefan Seefeld <issues@roundup-tracker.org> wrote: > Richard Jones wrote: > > The /doc-1.0/ URL works again but it's got the old website content > > rather than the new. > Yup, that was a Quick Hack, until I could figure out how to do it right. unless you can implement an automatic redirect, putting up a placeholder page that says "moved, go to the new location" would be a sure way to direct people to the new docs. Kind regards, --Toni++ |
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msg3730 | Author: [hidden] (stefan) | Date: 2009-06-17 15:08 | |
I changed the 'Help' URL to point to 'http://www.roundup-tracker.org' as per rev:4227. |
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Date | User | Action | Args |
2009-06-17 15:08:24 | stefan | set | status: new -> closed assignee: stefan resolution: fixed messages: + msg3730 |
2009-02-12 08:33:16 | tonimueller | set | messages: + msg3542 |
2009-02-12 05:10:11 | stefan | set | messages: + msg3539 |
2009-02-12 01:58:12 | richard | set | messages: + msg3535 |
2009-02-06 08:54:26 | tonimueller | set | messages: + msg3517 |
2009-02-05 21:40:54 | richard | set | messages: + msg3516 |
2009-02-05 21:30:37 | stefan | set | messages: + msg3515 |
2009-02-05 21:24:43 | richard | set | messages: + msg3514 |
2009-02-05 19:20:52 | stefan | set | messages: + msg3513 |
2009-02-05 18:49:20 | tonimueller | set | messages: + msg3512 |
2009-02-05 18:34:39 | stefan | set | messages: + msg3511 |
2009-02-05 18:17:07 | tonimueller | set | messages: + msg3510 |
2009-02-05 17:59:08 | stefan | set | nosy:
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2009-02-05 16:59:00 | tonimueller | create |