Created on 2018-10-09 18:26 by tekberg, last changed 2019-10-11 02:40 by rouilj.
|msg6265||Author: [hidden] (tekberg)||Date: 2018-10-09 18:26|
[Ralf, hope you don't mine me putting you in the nosy list.] In docs/installation.txt, section 'Configure a Web Interface' mod_python is listed as one of the web interface options. After taking a while to get it to build and install properly with virtualenv and python 3.6, I encountered this page when getting ready to create an apache mod_python.load file: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Apache_HTTP_Server/mod_python which has a link to this page: http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/06/modpython-project-is-now-officially.html The first 2 lines in the body of the second link's page are: Thursday, June 17, 2010 The mod_python project is now officially dead. The first link says that mod_python has "multiple security, performance and stability issues". The module mod_wsgi is the recommended alternative. Since mod_python was declared dead in June 2010, and has problems with security, performance and stability, should it be listed as an alternative web interfaces in roundup's doc/installation.txt? Removing it may someone else the effort of building and installing it.
|msg6269||Author: [hidden] (rouilj)||Date: 2018-10-09 21:49|
Hi Tom: In message <firstname.lastname@example.org> , Tom Ekberg writes: >New submission from Tom Ekberg: > [...] >In docs/installation.txt, section 'Configure a Web Interface' mod_python >is listed [...] >which has a link to this page: > >http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/06/modpython-project-is-now-officially.html > >The first 2 lines in the body of the second link's page are: > >Thursday, June 17, 2010 >The mod_python project is now officially dead. > >The first link says that mod_python has "multiple security, performance and >stability issues". The module mod_wsgi is the recommended alternative. > >Since mod_python was declared dead in June 2010, and has problems >with security, performance and stability, should it be listed as an >alternative web interfaces in roundup's doc/installation.txt? Yeah we should probably remove it, or at least list it last and suggest mod_wsgi as an alternative. Were you able to successfully deploy roundup under mod_wsgi using the installation instructions? If not, do you have updates to the doc with something that works? It looks like there may be a few variations of issues with the wsgi setup/docs. From a 1.4 setup issues were discussed at: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12408871/setup-roundup-with-wsgi-and-apache https://community.webfaction.com/questions/4165/roundup-issue-tracker-install These: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/modwsgi/FS4sClyxkCM https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/modwsgi/VAz3bSF9bH4 suggest dropping httpd = make_server('', 8917, app) httpd.serve_forever() at the end of the doc example. I don't have a setup here to test with and I am not familiar with wsgi so ... Have a great day.
|msg6277||Author: [hidden] (joseph_myers)||Date: 2018-10-10 01:35|
If mod_python is obsolete (cf. issue 2550821 reporting a Roundup patch needed to work with current mod_python, as of 2013), that definitely indicates that testing with mod_python and Python 3 (cf. issue 2550973) should not be needed before making a release with Python 3 support. (Personally I think we should be moving towards a release with the current state of the Python 3 support, suitably marked experimental, simply because we're not likely to get much more testing of that support without a release. Although I expect more issues are still present, I'm gradually writing automated tests for my own instance code to prepare to move to Python 3 in my production use, and whereas when I started writing such tests I was routinely finding Python 3 issues in Roundup, I'm no longer finding such issues routinely when I add tests.)
|msg6278||Author: [hidden] (schlatterbeck)||Date: 2018-10-10 08:17|
On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 06:26:21PM +0000, Tom Ekberg wrote: > [Ralf, hope you don't mine me putting you in the nosy list.] Fine, thanks > http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/06/modpython-project-is-now-officially.html > > The first 2 lines in the body of the second link's page are: > > Thursday, June 17, 2010 > The mod_python project is now officially dead. I've personally never used mod_python, I'm using wsgi in production and the built-in webserver for testing. So, yes, let's drop support for mod_python and remove it from the documentation. On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 05:48:49PM -0400, John P. Rouillard wrote: > Were you able to successfully deploy roundup under mod_wsgi using the > installation instructions? I'm running several instances with mod_wsgi. And there is uwsgi which seems to be better supported, no experience with that so far. > suggest dropping > > httpd = make_server('', 8917, app) > httpd.serve_forever() > > at the end of the doc example. I don't have a setup here to test with > and I am not familiar with wsgi so ... My wsgi script looks like this: #!/usr/bin/python from roundup.cgi.wsgi_handler import RequestDispatcher tracker_home = '/path/to/tracker' application = RequestDispatcher(tracker_home) On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 01:35:21AM +0000, Joseph Myers wrote: > > (Personally I think we should be moving towards a release with the current > state of the Python 3 support, suitably marked experimental Do we have someone who volunteers for a release manager? I'm quite busy and it would more likely be end of the year for a release, so if someone steps up I'd gladly help where I can. Ralf -- Dr. Ralf Schlatterbeck Tel: +43/2243/26465-16 Open Source Consulting www: http://www.runtux.com Reichergasse 131, A-3411 Weidling email: email@example.com
|msg6293||Author: [hidden] (tobias-herp)||Date: 2018-10-24 08:38|
I tried to setup a Roundup instance yesterday with mod_python, and failed. Then I noticed mod_python to be a dead horse anyway, and changed to roundup-server behind an apache virtual host. Perhaps we could find a place for configuration types which are not recommended anymore, without deleting them completely? That way, people who use mod_python with other software or remember to have read about Roundup supporting mod_python in the past, would know about the reasons.
|msg6673||Author: [hidden] (rouilj)||Date: 2019-10-02 21:38|
I have added comments to the top of apache.py indicating mod_python support is deprecated with roundup 2.0 in rev 5889:a243a036e7f3. Working through cleaning directions that reference mod_python.
|msg6731||Author: [hidden] (rouilj)||Date: 2019-10-11 02:40|
Closing. whatsnew-0.8.txt still references mod_python, I am leaving it as a historic artifact. The windows service installation references mod_python. But that section is marked deprecated, so users can ask and we can try to figure out a new recommendation. Maybe they can use a wsgi on windows?
|2019-10-11 02:40:44||rouilj||set||priority: normal|
status: open -> fixed
messages: + msg6731
|2019-10-02 21:38:35||rouilj||set||status: new -> open|
versions: + 2.0.0alpha, - devel
|2019-10-02 21:38:06||rouilj||set||messages: + msg6673|
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|2018-10-10 08:17:37||schlatterbeck||set||messages: + msg6278|
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